tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19646581.post2395691864786180151..comments2024-03-09T02:32:34.549-06:00Comments on Dr. Melissa Clouthier: Michael Vick: Barking MadMelissa Clouthierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15864991953502438461noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19646581.post-28900148780412429092007-08-15T18:34:00.000-06:002007-08-15T18:34:00.000-06:00Well said Melissa. I concede the point. (If only ...Well said Melissa. I concede the point. (If only politicians and the media pontificators could engage in honest debate...*sigh*)Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04672052660911240191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19646581.post-23033587335984972112007-08-15T12:17:00.000-06:002007-08-15T12:17:00.000-06:00OK Bob and David,Michael Vick is a baddie. If he's...OK Bob and David,<BR/><BR/>Michael Vick is a baddie. If he's money laundering drug money he should do time. And I get the mall offenses thing--going after the small fries often nets the big ones.<BR/><BR/>I still say that the public outrage shouldn't be over persecuted puppies. Now if some nefarious drug cartel is using Vick's enterprise to hide dirty dealings... well, that's another story.<BR/><BR/>And no doubt, the IRS wants it's filthy paws on his ill-gotten gain. <BR/><BR/>Ugh.Melissa Clouthierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15864991953502438461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19646581.post-60670785151376368882007-08-15T11:38:00.000-06:002007-08-15T11:38:00.000-06:00Melissa,An excellent post. I think you should con...Melissa,<BR/>An excellent post. <BR/>I think you should consider that the Feds are less concerned about the dog fighting and more concerned over the large amounts of money (much of it drug money, I suspect) being wagered on those fights. It will be money laundering and tax evasion for which Mr. Vick will do time. And that <I><B>is</B></I> worth our taxpayer dollars.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04672052660911240191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19646581.post-74523879796990074332007-08-15T11:21:00.000-06:002007-08-15T11:21:00.000-06:00Hey as long as Michael Vick pays the $63 Billion t...Hey as long as Michael Vick pays the <A HREF="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293268,00.html" REL="nofollow">$63 Billion</A> that he owes this poor guy I wouldn't mind him getting no jail time. :)<BR/><BR/>Seriously though... you can't have 100% of your police force going after felonies because everyone would know they had free reign to commit misdemeanors.<BR/><BR/>You also hit the law of diminishing returns... so if you throw 10 more agents on searching for Al Qaida cells there is no appreciable gain... but if you sent those 10 agents after lesser offenses you would clean up a significant amount of the lesser offenses.<BR/><BR/>And this entire discussion is completely unrelated to WHY our politicians won't seal the borders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19646581.post-64099738859322023802007-08-15T10:58:00.000-06:002007-08-15T10:58:00.000-06:00David,Yes, people who are cruel to animals, especi...David,<BR/><BR/>Yes, people who are cruel to animals, especially as children, often end up harming people. That's a stretch to say that adults who enjoy dog fighting or boxing or football (remember the wife beating meme?)or WWF or Nascar hurt people.<BR/><BR/>Do I think dog fighting is barbaric? Yes. Would I enjoy it? No. I don't watch boxing or ultimate fighting or WWF for the same reason. I do, however, love football.<BR/><BR/>Do I think dog fighting is morally wrong? Yes. But I think pornography is wrong and does FAR more damage. And I think abortion is wrong and barbaric and makes dog fighting look positively civilized.<BR/><BR/>I also think psychos blowing up our cities is morally wrong, but that's not lighting a fire under the government's ass to block the border where these evil people get a free trip in.<BR/><BR/>What I am saying, is that dog fighting is small potatoes. I think selling people (pimps and prostitution and child sex slave trade) is worse. I think murder is worse.<BR/><BR/>The government has limited resources. Put them toward big-time barbarism. <BR/><BR/>I know a lot of people will disagree with me. In fact, I fully expect to be in a teensy tiny minority on this. Oh well. I view this dog-fighting thing as mission creep by the federal government and it bugs me when their priorities are so out of whack.Melissa Clouthierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15864991953502438461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19646581.post-79638037511783714882007-08-15T10:35:00.000-06:002007-08-15T10:35:00.000-06:00I don't agree with you at all on this. If people a...I don't agree with you at all on this. If people are really going to jail for less than a year for murder--without major mitigating circumstances such as self-defense--then that problem is what needs to be fixed. It doesn't imply that violations of criminal statutes for crimes less than murder should be ignored.<BR/><BR/>Queen Elizabeth enjoyed bear-baiting? Well, in the late 1700s, women who were convicted of currency counterfeiting were sometimes sentenced to be *burned alive*. The fact that barbaric behavior was tolerated in earlier ages does not mean it has to be tolerated here and now.<BR/><BR/>People who exhibit cruelty to animals generally also exhibit cruelty to people. I think cruelty to animals needs to be prosecuted aggressively.David Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.com